Will Honesty Stalls work here?
September 10th, 2008 » 735 viewsOne interesting thing that I’ve come across in England was the concept of honesty stalls. I’ve seen one on the way to Minehead and another in the town of Watchet.
Honesty stall.
Eggs for honest people.
Honesty stalls are basically stalls selling vegetables and other goodies. What differentiates an honesty stall from the conventional stall is that they’re no people manning the stalls. To pay for your goods, all you have to do is slip the money into the mailbox and that’s it.
The cash register is the hole in the door.
To be honest, I just could not imagine such concept to ever take off in our country. Can you? The level of civility in England really amazed me, the way people give way while driving or walking and even something as basic as picking up their dogs’ poops from the street. Sure, the council estates are supposedly scary but seriously, it’s really nothing compared to our housing estates with its sky-rocketing snatch theft crimes.
Were they ringgits?
It’s really funny hearing the Babi warning against chinese being jews and taking over the country. It’s like hello, you think we like to live in this shithole of a country? I’d much rather migrate to any of the Top 10 cities in the world. They welcome young, capable adults like us with open arms. The ONLY reason we’re staying here and take your stupid shit is because our parents and elder family members are here and are (unfortunately) sentimentally attached to this country for reasons unbeknownst to me.
BN. PKR. SAME SHIT DIFFERENT PARTIES. SAME DODGY CORRUPTIVE ASSHOLES. This country is heading for the shithole.
You people who are abroad now. Just stay there and be happy don’t come back to this hot, hopeless shit.
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September 10th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
oh… ive seen similar ones in the hostel in usm which i used to stay in…. selling nasi lemak, apollo, keropok etc… and its stated there “MAKANLAH MAKANAN YANG HALAL”… and also smthing like “no one saw u curi but GOD did”…or some holy quotations.. =p
September 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Don’t think it will happen here ever.
Maybe if they installed CCTVs all around, it could work.
Maybe.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
happens in my previous office too with nasi lemak & meehun. no CCTV even.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Definitely cannot work here in our country. I just realised how uncivilised i am! sigh!
September 10th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Will Honesty Stalls work here?…
Honesty stalls are basically stalls selling vegetables and other goodies. What differentiates an honesty stall from the conventional stall is that they’re no people manning the stalls. To pay for your goods, all you have to do is slip the money into …
September 10th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’ve seen these types of stalls in rural areas. The kampung folks place their goods in a small shed with a tin or whatever for you to place money in. It worked back then, i don’t know about now.. cuz been taking highways n giving those roads a miss.
i think only in big cities ppl are much less civilised.
September 10th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
this works back in my hometown, Brunei…. =)
September 10th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
as much as the country sickens me, there’re a lot of stuf that makes it hard for me to immigrate.
i guess we just place more importance on the stuf that matters to us more. like great food 24/7 and family :D
September 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
If stalls like this is in the city. I think can only survive 3 days, yes? no? I think it’s only applicable in rural areas anywhere in the world.
Relax la, politic is dirty.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
“You people who are abroad now. Just stay there and be happy don’t come back to this hot, hopeless shit.”
And here I am, missing this country (and its food) terribly. :(
I was in Sweden last week, and I was amazed at how much the people there trust others. The reception area had a counter selling local postcards. And the reception is only manned till like 5pm. And the postcards and maps and what not are still placed there with signs saying “please pay at the reception”. I mean, if you do this in this country, in a blink of an eye, they would be all gone!
And here in Italy where I reside now, they have this system where you weigh your own veg/fruit at the supermarkets. They have a code for that particular product, so you weigh your stuff and punch in the code, take the sticker that is dispensed and pay for it at the checkout counter. I mean, the first time I saw it, I was like huh???? what if I punch in the code of something else? something that is much much cheaper? No one will know also. But I guess thats trust.
Dont think it would work back home in this country. Sad though.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
We have honesty vending machines. You put the money in and the machine starts to move and the packet of chips doesn’t fall out, so you have to beat the crap out of them till the chips fall to where you can pick the packet out of the machine through a little door. Then, someone tells you off for attacking the machine, and you say, ‘It wasn’t me. Honest!’ :-)
September 10th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
It’s not going to work over here. I’ve seen the same concept in NZ with the newspapers e.g. drop in a coin and the entire cover opens, and you take one copy (although you can take the entire stack if you want to). It works in some countries, doubt it would over here. Not that I lack faith in our countrymen…
…er, actually that’s exactly what I lack. ;)
September 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
In the East Coast states, there’s variations of this Honesty Stall. In some kampungs, the villagers place their produce such as vegetables at their doorstep. Customers picks it up, check against a small price list and pay up. Of course, there are still people who did not. Don’t think it’ll work in KL though.
Politics is dirty. Will always be. But, leaving this country is not easy. Like you said, BN or PKR, same shit, different parties. I just go on with my life and try to not let politics affect my life.
September 11th, 2008 at 3:28 am
These “honesty” stalls are a litmus test of a society’s stage of development and maturity.While we may criticize the West for their moral decline etc,the truth of the matter is we are light years behind in civil behaviour eg in lining up,courteous driving etc.The newspaper boxes referred to by Huai Bin, I do not see how it can work in this country or even in Singapore.Can you imagine our kiasu neighbours grabbing just on copy of the newspaper? Here in Toronto, there are thousands of these boxes used by very civil citizens everyday.
September 11th, 2008 at 5:54 am
try walking in inner city uk at nite for a change.. grass always greener on the other side..
but at the end of the day, its where ur happy that counts
September 11th, 2008 at 6:40 am
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September 11th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
i’d honestly pay ;)
if you drive through kampungs, it happens a lot. there are many fruit stalls along the roadside, and to stop and take the lot would be like taking candy from a child.
September 11th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Bryan - That’s nothing. You should have seen her eyes before the sex change! You could just melt into them. :-)
*runs before Kimberley beats me to death*
September 11th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
it’s like the time i was in perth and the way they paid their toll.
there was no bar, and no one taking care of the toll
all there was , was a huge white cloth bag for people to throw the money in as stated and drove on.
i wondered too , if it would work in kl.
but.. the answer i came up with was
“probably next morning whole bag also missing lah”
September 11th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Haha I seriously doubt it’ll work here, not to mention the bag, and stuff, but yea, sad to say, this nation are people of low moral integrity. Just look at the way people drive car around this country, or try to get on the LRT. Maybe I’m just biased :P but yea, I have always admired the western countries where at most places, people are friendly and polite.
September 11th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
LOL, Dabido, thats hilarious. :D
September 12th, 2008 at 2:43 am
I know that our generation deplores the lack of political sensibility in this country, but to see such a post on a well-respected blog is… surprising. I find your last few paragraphs disrespectful of the uneasy racial scenario here, and I do wish that it was perhaps phrased a bit more delicately.
The phrase “shithole of a country” is offensive, both to you and the people who live here on a daily basis. We often make fun of this country and its people, and though they more than often have a modicum of truth, they also are said in a fondly tolerant manner that makes it bearable.
I often have to defend my country and her actions to foreigners, who don’t understand her peculiarities, but to have to defend it to a fellow countrymen is horrifying.
Please understand that I am not pointing a finger and crying foulplay; neither am I denying you the right to freedom of speech. I am merely sad that my country, who could be so great if given the right leadership and the proper support from her people, is so denied in the grand scheme of things.
September 12th, 2008 at 4:46 am
the grass is indeed always greener on the other side. i’ve had first hand experience with the estates in the UK. trust me, getting stoned (seriously) by lil’ kids about 7-8 years old, as their parents watch with arms folded, is no fun indeed. and it wasn’t even racism. we (including my british mates) were picked on just because we were uni students, never mind that we were minding our own business and not even causing a din.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:09 am
Whilst it’s flattering you hold such a high opinion of my country, I have to agree with others here that it is a somewhat unfair comparison, and more than a little rose-tinted.
Firstly, such stalls would not succeed in every part of the UK. In rural areas, perhaps, but not in a town of any size - they would be abused as much as any place in your country you could name.
Secondly, I would sadly argue that civility and good manners in the UK in general is very much on the decline.
My own city has a high number of your country’s students; in contrast to many locals of an equivalent age and background, they are polite, articulate and far more mature in outlook.
September 12th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Not too sure if New York’s in the Top 10 cities in the world, but the honesty stall concept will never survive here either! (Although Huai Bin’s NZ newspaper box exists here, and isn’t too frequently taken advantage of…). Petty theft occurs all the time (and more so in large cities), especially where anonymity is prevalent… and priorities are set where the individual precedes community, materialism before morals…
And if there was anything that would draw me back home… it would be the people, the food, and the fact that it’s where I inhaled my first pocket of air (polluted or otherwise!).
September 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
ah grass is always greener on the other side, oi so cliched lah! i’ve worked in singapore and i’ve travelled extensively before so i KNOW the grass is NEVER greener.
yeah i agree honesty stalls will only work in kampungs and not the city. even in UK it’s only in small towns and the countrysides.
nur: while like you, i disagree with how this country is run but the difference between you and i was that (at the point when this post was written) i did not hold any endearment to it. i had loved to leave this country and be treated like a second class citizen in another country, at least i’d have an excuse there.
i have to admit, the outburst was written while i was in an place where i felt my position/privilege/rights as the citizen of this country was utterly and completely useless to me and my family for a personal matter. the nature of our personal matter if it had occurred in a different country would not have even been an issue to its citizen, so this has really driven me to a point where i couldn’t endear myself to this country.
what do i have that i could defend this country which is threatening to ruin my family life? good food? and..and what? racial harmony? why are we still reassuring ourselves every time about this in 2008? what racial scenario are we having exactly? we know for a fact that there will be NO more racial clashes like 13 May and we will ever still have silly banters about each other’s race/religions behind each others backs, FOREVER. the truth is, calling the chinese jews would have been funny if he had only meant it as a part of a clever speech and not some sort of “warning”. and nobody really cares about the fella making the silly comment, it’s just nice to see a corrupted fella like him get thrown out of the government even if it has to be done on a silly basis like “inciting racial sentiments”.
anyway, i don’t want to explain further regarding my further personal matter. while i implore you that if you can leave this country, leave and if you’re already abroad, please stay, I apologise for using such harsh words to express my thoughts about this place and please don’t take offence. i really hope i’d be able to change my tune one day about this country one day.
mh: sorry for your bad experience. the council estates can be quite unnerving. i was staying in one for a short while but fortunately for myself i did not come across any of those sort of thing. my former lecturer of indian descent recalled being called a paki there :(
half: it’s sad that moral decline and civility in uk is on a decline, but this country’s people unfortunately is going downhill as well. hehe you should see them students when they’re back in their own country then :)
September 12th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Whilst we’re definitely more civilised in England as a whole, your impression of people making way and picking up dog poo doesn’t apply to those living in London!
I’m not sure if you’ve been to this city, but be prepared to get shoved out of your way and some times shoulder-barged. Then again, most of those are tourists! ;)
September 12th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
My shoes keep picking up dog poo. They are so civilized. :-)
I wish they wouldn’t though. Smells awful!
September 12th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Imagine no possessions..
I wonder if you can..
No need for greed or hunger..
A brotherhood of man..
Imagine all the people..
Sharing all the world…
September 13th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I thought in one of your earlier post you stated, this country is not such a bad place and the status quo was good enough for you that you felt no need to vote in the general election.
still stand by it?
there is this saying about evil to take over is for good people to do nothing or words to that effect…..
September 14th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
jonathan: i haven’t been to london. i heard it’s not very friendly hehe.
dabs: lol
yum: people with the right aspirations die early.
eksk: yeah the status quo was fine by me, in fact i prefer the country how it’s like before the GE. can i say that all this bullshit is thanks to the opp ruffling whatever feathers they can? maybe. i really wonder why the opposition is not shadowing/observing the government but is constantly being a pain the ass (no pun intended) trying to “take over the current government”. can i say not another power-crazed-idiot?
will this bullshit pass and lead to a better country (better than pre-GE)? i sure hope so, but at this rate where both parties are being led by crooks….i shall reserve my vote till the right people come up. and sorry, not familliar with that saying.
September 14th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
hmm not ruffling the government.. in other words the opposition should shut up and take the shit the govt dishes out.. pendatang should keep their mouth shut got it…. accept the unspoken rule of not disobeying the govt ..
Just a question? how does the right person come up accepting the status quo?
September 15th, 2008 at 12:25 am
eksk: yes they should SHUT THE FUCK UP and work. dont just talk talk talk talk and pointing fingers. in fact all our politicians should eat a lil bit of stfu themselves. anyone talking about strengthening the nation’s economy, eradicating poverty, raising civic consciousness and actually fixing the problem of brain drain? this race shit thing is overrated, stupid and a complete waste of saliva and time. i liked the status quo…if you are so unsatisfied with it, why don’t YOU go out and make a difference? you voted? oh yes then you must be such a gawd damn hero ARENT YOU? as for me, i’ll appreciate if you just let me keep on working on leaving this damn place as soon as i can, kthxbai.